That Gray Area
Vanessa and Erinn are life long friends who are embracing That Gray Area of life between beautiful inexperience and wrinkled wisdom with humor, grace and a healthy dose of “F - you!” Join them as they riff about everything from sex and aging gracefully (whatever the hell that means!) to menopause and the other joys of midlife. They are all about challenging their and all women's views on body image and self love and doing away with the idea that getting older means getting duller. Bringing very different view points and life experiences to the table only adds to the insight, humor and irreverence to what they like to call That Gray Area.
Episodes
20 episodes
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED & WHAT'S NEXT: PANDEMIC EDITION
On the latest episode Vanessa and Erinn are discussing what we’ve they've away from the past 16 months. In it they talk about: 1: How everyone is having a unique pandemic experience, and how we can honor the di...
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Season 2
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Episode 3
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26:31
Me First! Raising Yourself, aka: Parenting Tips For Us!
The world is full of parenting books, magazines, blogs and social media pages. If you're looking for help raising kids, it's out there! But what if you're done raising kids day to day, or never had kids to raise in the first...
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Season 2
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Episode 2
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29:09
Let's Talk About Sex 2: Sexual Power!
Erinn and Vanessa are exploring sexual empowerment - what it means and how it changes as we age and evolve.Do the words sex and power, especially when it comes to women, get a bad rap? Is sexual power tied to our self esteem? ...
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Season 2
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Episode 17
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39:09
We're Tired of Sucking Our Stomachs In!
How often do you suck your stomach in? Do you even realize you're doing it? Who knew that women sucking their stomachs in is, apparently "a thing!"Think about this, the woman standing next to you in line at the grocery sto...
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Season 2
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Episode 16
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14:19
Male Gaze - Um...My Eyes Are Up Here!
The term "Male Gaze" was coined back in the 70's by film critic Laura Mulvey, but the sexual objectification of women in television, movies, advertising, comics and more is just as important a topic to talk about today - in good ol' 2021....
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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40:20
Flash-Cast! Happy New Year - Let's Reflect and Reset
As we say goodbye to the craziness that was 2020, Vanessa and Erinn want to take a few minutes to reflect and reset.They talk about what they've learned in 2020 - and what lessons they hope to take with them into the new year.Jo...
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Season 1
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Episode 0
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17:33
Diet Culture - It's Time to DITCH it.
Does your sense of self worth and a certain number on the scale go hand in hand? Do you "have" to fit into a certain size to feel good in life? If this sounds familiar, you, like many people, are caught up in the "Diet Culture...
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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43:07
Online Dating over 45, It's a Whole New World!
Vanessa and Erinn break down the highs, the lows, the wins and the losses of online dating over 45. Filled with good advice, a cautionary tale or two, and whole lotta humor, they dive right in on what to expect in this brave new world of dating...
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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38:15
Double Standards of Beauty - It's My Hair - I'll Go Gray If I Want To!
Double Standards can take on many forms, but today Vanessa and Erinn are talking about beauty double standards. Why are men silver foxes but many women dye their locks 'till they drop? What about shaving, makeup, body ideals are m...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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40:53
Toot Your Horn - Why Women Don't Brag
It's good to be proud of ourselves - but when does pride cross the line into bragging, and is that line different for men and women? Erinn and Vanessa are questioning why so many women accept self promotion in men as "confidence" but of...
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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41:23
Forgiveness
We've all experienced hurt at the hands of another, be it a lover, a friend, or even a family member. However, not all of us are able to forgive the person who hurt us, and some of us forgive too easily. In this heartfelt episode Erinn ...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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59:45
Shame On Us Part One: Body Shaming
If you have a body - and we know you do - you've probably felt that it's been subject to comment or scrutiny at some point in your life. On this episode Vanessa and Erinn launch their series on shaming, with a look at how soci...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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39:29
Parenting - But Only the Things We Did Right!
Erinn and Vanessa discuss their parenting styles which although different, both resulted in happy, loving, funny, bright, well adjusted young adults. They talk about the tips and tricks they've learned over the years that really worked to foste...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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46:22
Aging Gracefully - Part One
In this episode Erinn and Vanessa attempt to define what it means to Age Gracefully in today's society, and how that can mean something different for every one. Botox? Fillers? Hair dye and makeup, or even surgery? Or...Screw it all and...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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42:24
Let's Talk About Sex, Baby! Part One
Vanessa and Erinn a getting real about sex. How it changes as we age, how our ideas of sexuality are instilled in us at a young age and how we can learn to harness our sexual power and create healthy, lasting sexual relationships that stand the...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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41:37
Celebrating The Notorious RBG Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
In That Gray Area's first "FlashCast" Vanessa and Erinn honor the life and accomplishments of their favorite Supreme Court Justice and feminist hero Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In this brief but topical episode they discuss RBG's legacy as the preemin...
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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12:41
Is It Me, or am I Hot in Here?! Menopause - Part One
Erinn discusses her harrowing and hilarious menopause journey (yep, she had *almost* every symptom imaginable). They cover the highs and the lows of "the change" and what lead Erinn to seek out hormone replacement therapy (HRT), while Van...
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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48:42
Self-love: It Does a Body Good - Part One
Vanessa and Erinn get down and dirty about Self-love and what they are doing to overcome impediments that stand in the way of embracing and appreciating who they are, while still working to improve and grow.Join us on Instagram
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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39:43
What Is That Gray Area?
Erinn and Vanessa give you a little backstory on who they are and why they want to change the narrative on women and aging.Join us on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussi...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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29:05
Life Is Too Short For Shitty Sex and a Bad Relationship
Erinn and Vanessa talk about sex, relationships and aging. Erinn has been with her husband for 17 years and Vanessa is newly single after a 20 year marriage. They discuss the pros and cons of staying or going, sex in new and long term relations...
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Season 1
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Episode 1
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35:39